[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

First, I think that you did the right thing in attempting to get the play right. Your partner needed some help after making a call on a play that he couldn't truly see (I believe that he should have not had a whistle in that case.) and you gave him a way out. However, I do have some aspects of how this was handled that I question.

What I underlined is probably the correct call by the rules. Why didn't you stick with that? As is often said, your first thought is usually right.

I think it is debatable at this point if that would have been the right call. The reason I thought of an inadvertent whistle is mainly the fact the ball was loose at one point before the player came back to the floor. That still does not mean that there is not the possibility of a jump ball or that a jump ball was not the right call. I also have not seen the tape and cannot tell you how right or wrong the call is. I will say that I do have on tape a game earlier this year where I called a jump ball similar to the OP I described. The difference in this play and the play that I actually have on tape is the play is the fact the ball never came loose in the play I have actually seen.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I don't like what I put in red. Would you have wanted to go with a held ball if the arrow favored the other team? Which team has the arrow shouldn't be a factor in your decision. You should have just stuck with trying to get the play right, not take an easy way out.

First of all I have no idea what I would have done if the arrow was pointed the other way. I did not have that as an option. Also my decision was not based solely on the arrow. It was a factor, but not THE FACTOR. I am no more sure about this call as I would any call tough call I have not seen the tape on yet. Now if I am not sure, how can anyone else say it was the right thing to do either way without seeing the actual tape?

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I would have let my partner who made the original call turn around and signal the held ball. It was his call to change.

I do not completely disagree with this statement. I was not doing it for any particular reason other than we were talking for quite a long time. I was the closest to the table and I turned to the table after all 3 of us were talking. It was more of a reaction after we kept talking and repeated what we were going to do. In a perfect world I would not have signaled at all after the conversation. I did and we moved on. I was actually expecting the assignor to make a comment about this and he did not. As I stated earlier, he just wanted to know what the conversation was about.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I'm a bit confused now. I thought that you said in your first post that you did give the signal. Or do you mean that you didn't give that signal on the play, but only after the conversation with your partners?

This thread is very long and I am not sure what context you got that comment out of (sorry I do not feel like reading back at this time ) but I believe I was referring to not signaling on the initial call (when my partner blew his whistle. I was not referring to after the conversation.

Peace