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Old Thu Feb 07, 2002, 01:35pm
JRutledge JRutledge is offline
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Originally posted by zebraman
Rut,

Did I once read a post by you that said some boys assignors will basically blacklist a ref (my translation, not your exact words) if they did girls games as well as boys?

You are certainly entitled to your negative opinion about girls games and have a right to not accept them on an individual level. However, if I ever knew firsthand of a boys assignor who discriminated against a ref because he/she also officiated girls games, I would file an ethics complaint and perhaps more.

Last time I checked, this was 2002, not 1902.

Z

I see you are one of these people that lives in the fantasy liberal worlds that everything is equal and should be equal. Good goal but does not apply here.

I never said blacklisted. I said that they would not hire officials that have a greater schedule of girls, or officials that attempt to go farther in girls every year.

Whether you want to face the facts or not, not a single D1 level official does both. Not to say they have never switched at some point, but they do not go a Big 10 Men's game on Monday, and Tuesday doing a Big 10 Women's game. It does not happen. And at the HS level in many areas, it does not happen either. Or you do not see many officials on the top doing both. And considering that we have playoffs for the girls that start before the boys, it is hard to fill games with officials that have boys games and have to give them up, because they are doing playoff games.

It would be kind of hard for anyone to file charges of discrimination if you feel that someone cannot handle the speed and ability of the boys game compared to the girls. If people would stop trying to be PC all the time, they might actually realize that boys are faster, and boys jump higher and the boys game is usually expected to be called a little more physical than girls games. In my opinion it would be like taking an official that is only used to doing a JH boys game and expect that same official to jump to HS boys game and expecting them to handle the speed of the game. And considering that I have actually seen middle school kids play around the rim, and I have never seen a single girls game that is even near it, I think the level of judgement and speed is different.


This is just a fact of the game. The more you move up, the more you have to choose. If you do not believe that, talk to Don Rutledge (WNBA Supervisor), Ed Rush (NBA Director of Officials, Marcy Weston (NCAA Women's Officials Program) and Hank Nichols (NCAA Men's Officials Program) and you tell them if they are all discriminating. Don Rutledge alone said to Referee Maganzine after he decided to be the head person over the WNBA, he clearly asked officials "do you want to do the NBA?" Because if the answer was yes, they were not going to put on the staff. He wanted officials that were committed to Women's basketball, not someone wanting to be somewhere else.

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