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Old Fri Dec 08, 2006, 02:04am
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Read my post above (#111). Due to the logic given in the case play, I've flipped sides on this. If we don't have definite knowledge of how much time to put back on the clock, then we can't put any back on. By rule, time has expired. When did it expire? Just before the shot was released.

I agree with JR that by rule, you can't count the hoop unless you are able to legally put time back on the clock. If one official looks up at the clock at the whistle and sees time, then we can put the time on and score the hoop; because time hasn't actually expired.

Adam
Consider the following situation:

A, down 1 with 2:00 to go in overtime has the ball for a throwin. The ball is thrown in (the clock starts properly). A, wanting to hold the ball for the last shot has A2 hold the ball near midcourt with no defenders within 6ft.

After approximately 8-10 seconds, the horn sounds as a result of the timer who is with team B accidentially (or deliberately) hitting a button that resets the clock to 0:01.

No official was looking at the clock because there was no reason to be looking at the clock at that moment. Since the the ball was in the frontcourt, there was no closely guarded situation, and nearly two minutes should have been on the clock, no official is tracking the clock.

By the rules as interpreted by Jurrassic, et.al., since no official knows the exact time that needs to be on the clock, no correction can be made....no time could be put back on the clock. The game is over. A loses.

Does this make any sense at all? If you are to interpret the rules so literally, you'd have to let the game end with B winning in this situation. This is a case of time running out (on the clock anyway) and the horn sounding when it did so when no correction can, by rule, be made. Do you really believe that this is the intent of the timing correction rule? The clock says 0:00, the horn sounded, no official knew the exact time.

Now I know every single one of you out there that does any decent level of ball is going to put time back on the clock in this case...knowing the spirit and intent of the rule, not the letter. You're not going to end a game 2 minutes early because of a timer error.

Now, take this to the last second shot. It is the intent of the rules that the clock stop on the whistle and that the shooter be allowed to complete the shot if fouled while in the act of shooting. The whole point about the ball becoming dead when the horn sounds is based on the expectation that time expires properly, not in error.
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