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Originally Posted by refnrev
I wish that palming and carrying were more of an emphasis in FED. Each year the players seem to get by with more and more. I've seen some girls with palms facing the celing and the ball almost coming to rest. I have to admit I don't call the carry as often as I used to.
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Certainly I can tell when there's a blatant carry, and it upset me to no end when NBA star players would get away with it. Once I was just shooting around a basketball at a playground, and these kids were emulating a Jordan crossover where they'd just scoop the ball under their hands repeatedly. Try telling a bunch of kids that Michael Jordan gets away with an illegal move. I once sat in the 3rd row of a D-I college game and could hear everything the refs were saying. There was one particular player who liked to bring his hand over the top of the ball when walking it up, but otherwise never did when pressured by a defender. However - he did get called once, and I heard the ref yell, "Carry! Big time!" The sense I got was that they were telling him it was OK if he didn't get an advantage, but this time his hand went through 270 degrees of the ball.
I'd certainly like to understand what's the difference between a legal move and an illegal one. I'm not a subscriber to the services mentioned, so I don't have access to the video described. However - I'm just trying to get a handle on what the following would be:
1) A player dribbles a ball way over the head, but the hand is directly on top of the ball and the upward/downward dribble is always in a fluid motion that's relatively straight.
2) A player is running faster than the momentum of the ball and continues the dribble by bringing the ball above and behind his shoulder with the hand above 90 degrees from the top of the ball.
3) The "hesitation" move that's specified in the 2007 NCAA rulebook emphasis. It sounds like they're referring to things like where a player might dribble the ball high, and continue the downward dribble motion with several direction changes during the same downward motion.
My problem with the refs is that I'm looking at other games, and there are players who are dribbling the ball borderline supporting the weight of the ball, and I don't see calls. I question some of the calls because I never saw the ball "coming to rest" or being supported by the hand.