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Originally Posted by drinkeii
True - but certainly isn't going to get ignored either, as some people said they would do on the basketball court. And I would certainly not expect the administration to ignore a teacher who is using language or talking to kids the way it was described in the original post.
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I do not think many people said anything about ignoring the comments. I think most people said this would not warrant a T. Also I think people are looking at the context in the original post.
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Originally Posted by drinkeii
Something is wrong with your phrase - But the language then NF use is going to change from one person to another and is going to change depending on who we work for - I don't know what you meant to say.
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The NF, NCAA and I likely will assume the NBA does not use specific terms that are Ts no matter what. Even when the NF and NCAA talk about racial and gender comments, they never narrow it down to what they mean. Being a person of color I can tell you everything that would be offensive does not boil down to one or two words.
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Originally Posted by drinkeii
I would rather be in a world where the rules and expectations were spelled out clearly, and in general, people followed them. The "victim" mentality present in our world is based mostly on the greyspace I'm referring to. "Yeah, that's the rule, but I shouldn't have to follow it because...", or "Yeah, the coffee is hot, and I expected it to be hot, because I would have complained if you gave me lukewarm coffee, but because I spilled it on myself, I should be able to get money from you because you didn't TELL me in 5 different ways that it was hot." If the coach just took responsibility for his actions and choices (not using the language, or accepting the technical if he chooses to), things would be a lot smoother.
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Originally Posted by drinkeii
And yes, I know this isn't a perfect world. But I'll tell you what - when I taught middle school, I had 2 goals for the kids by the time they got out of having me for 2 years... Get ready for high school, and become more responsible for your choices. You choose to break a rule, you're choosing to accept the consequences. If you do something right and something nice happens, you don't complain - so don't complain when you do something wrong and something bad happens. Take responsibility for your choices in life. Now, I teach high school. I don't tolerate kids swearing in the classroom (and have been trying not to tolerate it at the basketball practices I run), and I don't tolerate it in any of the sports I officiate. And I certainly don't tolerate it from adults. And I still push the responsibility thing - if more people did, we wouldn't need as many lawyers!
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Let us get back to what we are actually talking about. The use of "hell" is very likely not going to bring the same reaction in the classroom that you claim it is. If that was the case then I know a lot of teachers that would be fired. Remember we are not talking about the "F" word or other words that bring a strong reaction; we are talking about "hell."
Peace