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Old Mon Nov 20, 2006, 01:16pm
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Originally Posted by JRutledge
You can say rules are rules, but this rule is very subjective. Even your explanation of what should be "appropriate" is not based on what the rule is. Now I have no problem with your application if it works for you. Knock yourself out and call a T every single time if you see fit. But the language then NF use is going to change from one person to another and is going to change depending on who we work for. Of course you can talk about what you will call; you use a term that is no where in the rule. I also feel that sporting events are an extension of the classroom, but every action just like in the classroom do not send you to detention.
True - but certainly isn't going to get ignored either, as some people said they would do on the basketball court. And I would certainly not expect the administration to ignore a teacher who is using language or talking to kids the way it was described in the original post.

Something is wrong with your phrase - But the language then NF use is going to change from one person to another and is going to change depending on who we work for - I don't know what you meant to say.


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Originally Posted by JRutledge

What world do you live in? Obviously not the one I want to be associated with.

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I would rather be in a world where the rules and expectations were spelled out clearly, and in general, people followed them. The "victim" mentality present in our world is based mostly on the greyspace I'm referring to. "Yeah, that's the rule, but I shouldn't have to follow it because...", or "Yeah, the coffee is hot, and I expected it to be hot, because I would have complained if you gave me lukewarm coffee, but because I spilled it on myself, I should be able to get money from you because you didn't TELL me in 5 different ways that it was hot." If the coach just took responsibility for his actions and choices (not using the language, or accepting the technical if he chooses to), things would be a lot smoother.

And yes, I know this isn't a perfect world. But I'll tell you what - when I taught middle school, I had 2 goals for the kids by the time they got out of having me for 2 years... Get ready for high school, and become more responsible for your choices. You choose to break a rule, you're choosing to accept the consequences. If you do something right and something nice happens, you don't complain - so don't complain when you do something wrong and something bad happens. Take responsibility for your choices in life. Now, I teach high school. I don't tolerate kids swearing in the classroom (and have been trying not to tolerate it at the basketball practices I run), and I don't tolerate it in any of the sports I officiate. And I certainly don't tolerate it from adults. And I still push the responsibility thing - if more people did, we wouldn't need as many lawyers!
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