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You can call a double foul for many situations. You know this. Stop trying to act like you have never saw one before.
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Don't get off point. Obviously I know we have double fouls elsewhere. For this discussion we are referring to the block/charge. JR, I don't care who you were talking about. My point is that in the BLOCK/CHARGE scenerio one player is right and one player is wrong. As far as the judgement of the officials one official is wrong and one is right. PERIOD!!! Someone was doing something they should have not been doing. It doesn't negate the fact that this still happens.
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Whatever you say.
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You have aproblem with getting calls or plays right? I would hope most of us besides you would want to get the plays right! First of all in the women's game we are doing what is correct. We can get together, discuss the play and make a dicision as to who the foul is on. The men's game doesn't allow that...and thats OK. My intial response was to those who thought that the women handled it better since it didn't require a double foul.
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You are just another example of why the "get it right" philosophy is wrong. You are so concerned with your opinion; you are not really reading what people are telling you. "Getting it right" is an opinion. What you might think is right, to someone else would be done wrong. You should follow procedures and common sense whenever possible. If you get together what is likely going to happen is the stronger and more respected official is going to get their way. It will not be about actually being right. You might not every know who was right until film study. Even then that would be debatable.
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Your more concerned with the coaches feeling slighted then you are getting the right foul. Regardless if you call just one foul or two one or both of the coaches is going to feel,"slighted" as you would say. Have a wash? It's not a wash. My bad coach...I screwed up so to be fair I'm going to penalize both of you, so that way it will be a wash. What? You mean we now have to be worried about foul totals matching up and making sure that neither coach is feeling slighted? If we have a block/charge we are already wrong. No way out of it. Double fouls makes both coaches mad. One foul may make one coach mad. If the tape validates the call then who cares. The double foul will always be penalizing a player who didn't do anything to deserve the penalty. All because the officials made a error in calling the play. If anybody is going to feel,"slighted'" it will be the player.
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I feel the NCAA Women's rule is stupid. You do not have to agree with me. That is my opinion and I am sticking to it.
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So what if he/she feels that way. We shouldn't be concerned with that. Its not our JOB to be concerned with if they feel slighted or not. We should be more concerned with getting the call right!!!! Sure they very well might. But if I call the double foul then I'm wrong 100% of the time by penalizing a player that didn't deserve it.
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Whatever you say.
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So, now are you advocating calliing out of your area? Because on some earlar threads you were against it. You didn't care who had the better angle. You implied, that would be ball watching and you wouldn't be sure what your other partner was seeing or had seen.
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Either you do not understand 3 man coverage or you do not understand the conversation we had a while back. Maybe being in Indiana you do not work a lot of 3 man. But it is very common when the ball goes to the cup (where these blarges happen) the official that started the play takes it to its finish.
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IMO I like the way the women call the Blarge. It makes the most sense. Instead of penalizing both players it only penalizes one. Coming from a coaching background I would rather a official call one foul instead of calling a double foul especially if I knew that my player didn't do anyhting to deserve the penalty. I wouldn't accept the mentality that if I'm wrong then your wrong.
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Good for you. You can think everything they do is right. I personally do not care. I did not ask for your opinion, I was giving my opinion. I know this; I will not have to worry about it because every code I will work under says this is a double foul.
Peace