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Originally Posted by JRutledge
First of all if you really want to be technical, you could have a double foul in these situations.
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How?
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We just do not want to go there and rightfully so. We call double fouls in other aspects of the game so I do not know how you can make that statement. Also I was not talking about the players being right or wrong. I am talking about the judgment of the officials
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Don't get off point. Obviously I know we have double fouls elsewhere. For this discussion we are referring to the block/charge. JR, I don't care who you were talking about. My point is that in the BLOCK/CHARGE scenerio one player is right and one player is wrong. As far as the judgement of the officials one official is wrong and one is right. PERIOD!!! Someone was doing something they should have not been doing. It doesn't negate the fact that this still happens.
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Here you go with the "get it right" line. I surely hope you have more to offer than that statement.
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You have aproblem with getting calls or plays right? I would hope most of us besides you would want to get the plays right! First of all in the women's game we are doing what is correct. We can get together, discuss the play and make a dicision as to who the foul is on. The men's game doesn't allow that...and thats OK. My intial response was to those who thought that the women handled it better since it didn't require a double foul.
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You are "getting it right" when you are following what the rules say. If you pick one, someone is going to feel slighted.
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Your more concerned with the coaches feeling slighted then you are getting the right foul. Regardless if you call just one foul or two one or both of the coaches is going to feel,"slighted" as you would say.
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If you go with a double foul, you have a wash.
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Have a wash? It's not a wash. My bad coach...I screwed up so to be fair I'm going to penalize both of you, so that way it will be a wash. What? You mean we now have to be worried about foul totals matching up and making sure that neither coach is feeling slighted? If we have a block/charge we are already wrong. No way out of it. Double fouls makes both coaches mad. One foul may make one coach mad. If the tape validates the call then who cares. The double foul will always be penalizing a player who didn't do anything to deserve the penalty. All because the officials made a error in calling the play. If anybody is going to feel,"slighted'" it will be the player.
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It might not be the best thing, but at least there is not a question of "he did not give me a call night and here is another example."
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So what if he/she feels that way. We shouldn't be concerned with that. Its not our JOB to be concerned with if they feel slighted or not. We should be more concerned with getting the call right!!!!
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You make it sound like in the Women's game they will not look at tape and disagree with the foul that was decided upon.
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Sure they very well might. But if I call the double foul then I'm wrong 100% of the time by penalizing a player that didn't deserve it.
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It is not always about whose primary. It could be who had the play from the beginning. Or who had the better angle.
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So, now are you advocating calliing out of your area? Because on some earlar threads you were against it. You didn't care who had the better angle. You implied, that would be ball watching and you wouldn't be sure what your other partner was seeing or had seen.
IMO I like the way the women call the Blarge. It makes the most sense. Instead of penalizing both players it only penalizes one. Coming from a coaching background I would rather a official call one foul instead of calling a double foul especially if I knew that my player didn't do anyhting to deserve the penalty. I wouldn't accept the mentality that if I'm wrong then your wrong.