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Originally Posted by Bob M.
REPLY: Let's take them one at a time...
In the posted play, it was 4th and 8. The penalty was for running into the kicker. Thus a 5 yard penalty would not give K a first down. That's the difference from your case play.
Your second question...making a fair catch is one of those 'major' clock-stoppers--those where "...the action that caused the down to end also caused the clock to stop." Just like an incomplete pass and a live ball going out of bounds. Hence, start on the snap
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1. Miss read - thought it a first
2. Thanks - that what I had deduced but was unsure.