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Old Wed Sep 13, 2006, 07:45am
mcrowder mcrowder is offline
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Fun with PAT's, New Term 7GP

First, I hereby request that we change the term TWP (Third World Play) to 7GP (7th Grade Play).

2005 NCAA Rules (Texas)
Game 1 - B team. Home team has just scored to make it 6-6 and is lined up to kick their PAT. Kick slams into the line as the rush comes in. Blocked by the ankles of the DT and hits the ground by the center's feet. Never crossed NZ.

Everyone stands around for a second, and as the center picks it up, the home team's coach yells that the ball is dead. He yells this about 4 times. Proud of my crew as no one blows a whistle. Center then walks into the endzone as the defense stands around.

Home team ends up winning 7-6 (running a PAT in 7th grade in this district is 1 point, while kicking is 2).

Game 2 - A team. Home team has just scored to make it 20-0 and is linde up to kick their PAT. They are lined up with 7 on the line and 3 in the backfield. I've blown it ready. Player 11 comes running behind me, and is in about the same position as Nick Saban's red flag when the ball is snapped. No one moves. Holder still has the knee down and is holding the ball looking at me. Player 11 makes it to his position, visiting coach yelling, "Come on, you have to call SOMEthing." Again, proud of my crew for not blowing a whistle. Holder then throws the ball back to center, who drops it. I blow my whistle - incomplete pass, PAT no good.

In hindsight, I realize I failed to rule illegal motion on player 11, who was most likely moving forward when the ball was snapped (although this WAS behind me), and failed to rule illegal touching on the offense when the ball hit the center. But at least since the ball hit the ground, both fouls would have been declined.

I started envisioning what would have happened had the center caught the ball, bent over, snapped it again, and then kicked it. I suppose we'd have had 3 fouls (illegal motion, illegal touching, illegal kick (??? - I'm actually having trouble finding the rule this morning that says you can't scrimmage kick after a completed pass behind the LOS)), all of which would allow a rekick after a 5 yard penalty.
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