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Originally Posted by wadeintothem
I disagree with you on when it occurs.
Its not an out until its called. Its not the act, its the call, especially if there is a completely valid use of time between time.
Now if theres a check swing and the ump goes and gets a burger and comes back and calls strike, thats not a valid use of time
but in your scenario, all that play was valid and part of the game and the clock would not have stopped in inning 1 any more than it would in the wanning moments.
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I looked for the phrase "valid use of time" in all of my books and can't find it.
Seriously - this is a faulty way of looking at things, but if this is your opinion, would you nullify the run in the hypothetical I posted? Are you also saying that on a timing play, the timing of the CALL is what you go by as opposed to the timing of the out itself? This is just wrong.