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I see no logic or reality to "Its not an out until its called"
An appeal of a force out is based on when the force was "in force"; the out still occurs when the play is made.
A runner crossing the plate in the instant between the BR being beaten to 1st by the ball and the umpire's call or signal does not score.
If a play occurs that results in an out, but it is not determined to be an out unti after consultation with an UIC; it still happened when it happened and no umpiring delay changes that.
An out is an out, umpires just announce what happened. Even on a timing play or dead ball appeal, the out occurred during play, not later when the umpire rules.
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Officiating takes more than OJT.
It's not our jobs to invent rulings to fit our personal idea of what should and should not be.
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