[TXMATTHEW05]

NEVER say you're just a scorer!!!!

The Head Referee made it very clear that we are on the same team. I'm part of the officiating team.

I'd suggest you ask a gentle question here - was 21 the player who fouled or who got fouled? It's obvious there was a mix-up as to the color, and this is a way to plant a seed in the ref's mind without becoming confrontational.

The reason I didn't say anything at first is that I was afraid I'd be out of place. I didn't want to humiliate the guy in front of anybody; I didn't know what to do - I never have been in that situation before.

Who fouled or who was fouled is a judgement call that cannot be overridden by the referee.

After we addressed the referee, the timer said that we could of changed it and put the foul on the correct person, and nobody would of known the difference. The visiting scorer agreed with that tactic. However, I didn't know if that was legal, and what would happen if we were busted.

This is definately one of the official "correctible errors." I'm going to vote that this is not correctable. Bookkeeping mistakes can be fixed - if an official knows he called 3 fouls on #21, but only 2 show in the book, the record can be changed to 3. In your case, the foul was properly reported and recorded (even if charged to someone other than the fouler).

He was sure it was correctable, though he didn't say to correct it. He said I should of said something when it happened; that was MY fault. It has now established precedent, however.

WHOA!! By saying you won't point out something that helps the home team, you lose all credibility as a scorer! If there is an error in either direction, point it out. You should feel comfortable questioning a few foul calls (i.e., I've seen where a foul is called on red 14, and red 14 is on the bench - that needs to be brought to the officials' attention!).

No, you mis-understood. I meant if the call was correct and went against my school's team (if we are home), I'm not going to challenge the call.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no!!! If you feel something is wrong, and the officials approve the change, change it. Simply changing the official book will get you in trouble real fast. Example: Official calls a foul on Red 14, but you decide to switch it to Red 51 (without telling anyone). Red 51 then fouls, and (according to the book) it is his 5th foul. Red coach and book show Red 51 as having only four fouls. Technical foul on red coach.

That's different. It was an incorrect call on the official. As the official scorer, and as part of the officiating team, I have a responsibility to make sure the game is fair and correct at all times. While I see what you're saying, do you see what I'm saying? EVERYBODY in that gym KNEW and THOUGHT it was called on White 15.

There is no exception when you are at the scorer's table - whether as a scorer or anything else.

I most certainly do not yell at a referee as a scorer. If I'm in the stands (and I hardly EVER do), I may yell. Like today, a girl threw a ball at the referee (THREW THE BALL), and he didn't call anything. Then the same girl got up in his face, screaming, didn't call anything. The girl's coach forfeited the game, as it was getting out of hand. One girl had to be taken the ER - and the same girl at the next game was calling the referee "stupid skanks". I will be refereeing this league next year, and if she EVER says or does anything like that to me, I will personally make sure she is T'd up. (When she was calling the ref's stupid skanks, she was in the stands - I would of thrown her out. She can't be more than 11!)