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Originally Posted by blu_bawls
Reaching and touching the base are two different things.
Once the batter crossed first and went to second he has already reached first base. Touching it only matters if they appeal it. A runner can hit a home run a not touch any base and the run counts until someone appeals that the batter missed a base.
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So far, you are proving my point.
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The fourth out advantage gives the defense the opportunity to take an out on appeal that would benefit them.
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NOT DISCUSSING A FOURTH OUT APPEAL HERE!
We are discussing your thread-hijacking scenario of:
2 outs with R1 on 3rd, B2 hits a fast grounder to right field. B2 crosses the base (but does not touch the orange part of the bag) before the throw from right field reaches F3 you MUST call B2 safe. During this time R1 scores.
As B2 walks back to first base, she is tagged by the first baseman who appeals she didn't touch the base. Run scores and the inning counts.
The runner isn't required to touch the orange part of the base unless there is a play when approaching the base, so if there is an appeal as you are suggesting, it must be for missing 1B. This appeal is NOT a timing play and any runs would not count, citations still apply.
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If both 1R on Second and R2 on third tag up and leave early on a second out catch to the outfield the defense can appeal R1 leaving early and get the third out but then can appeal R2 leaving early and ge tthat call.
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You just moved to a third scenario which has nothing to do with a force out.
Obviously, your mind is set, so I'm not going to waste any more time on this one.