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Originally posted by bob jenkins
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Originally posted by BktBallRef
Based on the post from Eli and the experience that I've had, I would have to disagree. Using the information above, a team would have 35.9 seconds to shoot. If the clock has anywhere from 25.1 to 25.9 when it'a showing 25 then it would have anywhere from 35.9 to 35.1 when 35 is showing. We know that's not true.
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Tony -- that would be true if the clock "Ran down" to 35 seconds (indicated). But, when it's SET to 35 seconds, it's set to exactly 35.0.
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Bob, that's exactly my point. I'm simply pointing out how the clock would work if it worked as Dennis stated.
If the shot clock is at 35.0 when 35 is displayed, then it's at 25.0 when 25 is displayed. That's simply common sense and it's consistent. It doesn't make sense to say the clock is at 35.0 when 35 is displayed but it's not at 25.0 until 24 is displayed. This is what Dennis is saying when he says the clock is at 25.1 to 25.9 when it displays 25.
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Look at the game clock, for example, and look at minutes and seconds, instead of seconds and tenths. It's set to 8:00. It "immediately" changes to 7:59. When it gets to 4:xx, it doesn't mean 4 minutes have elapsed -- just the contrary, it means that 4 minutes haven't yet elapsed. IF the seconds weren't displayed, we couldn't have a "4 minute violation" until the clock read 3..
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Exactly, but game clocks work differently than shot clocks. Most game clocks now have tenths. So, when the clock says 8:00, it's actually at 8:00.0. Shot clocks don't reflect tenths.
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(We need someone to test all this out with a shot clock -- and it's possible that different brands / models work differently -- I know that game clocks do. We need to start it and stop it as quickly as possible -- did it stay at 35, or change to 34? Counting down with the clock, does the horn sound as soon as we get to 0, or does the horn wait until we get to -1?)
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I have. Last year, at a girls' AAU tourney, which uses NCAA Women's rules, we tested a Daktronics shot clock and a Fair-Play shot clock. In both cases, when the clocks were started, one second passed before the clock ticked down from 30 to 29. Also, as soon as the clock reached 0, the horn sounded.
I hope that helps clear it up.