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Originally Posted by mbyron
You might be simply omitting to say that BR is liable to be tagged out if he overruns 1B. He does have to be tagged.
Or, you might be misinterpreting the FED rule. The rule says that BR may overrun 1B without penalty except on a BB - it does not follow that if he overruns 1B on a BB then there must be a penalty (such as calling him out).
As with any awarded base, the runner is protected up to, but not past, the awarded base, and if the ball is live and in play he may advance at his own risk. What's unusual about a walk is that the ball is alive during and after the award.
I'm not saying that you made this mistake, only that this is one possible interpretation of what you actually wrote, and it gets the rule wrong.
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Just so we are clear:
In FED, you may overrun 1st base on a walk, but they can tag your butt out.
In OBR, you may overrun 1st base on a walk, but they cannot tag your butt out.
That is the difference in a nut shell.
Rich (F) said he would never call the runner out (if he was tagged, I figured he meant) after overrunning 1st base after a base on balls award. I then figured he meant on a
dead ball award,
not after the live-ball "award" of a 4th ball delivered. A dead ball award is when the defense decides they want an automatic walk issued, and "Time" is called to make the award. But the runner is out if he overruns and is tagged on a live-ball walk.
Yes, what I omitted was that the runner had to be tagged, which I thought was a given. I was also illustrating that FED and OBR once again differ on how to rule on the same play.