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 As I said, depending on the situation and the actions of the offensive player, I can see situations where shoulder to torso contact could be PC even without LGP.  
			
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 Could you please give me an example then of a situation where dribbler shoulder to defender torso contact could be a PC foul when the defender doesn't have LGP? Could you also please cite a rule to back up your call? [/B]
			
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 There is a reference in the NCAA Appendix for women's, but can't find any references for men. [/B][/QUOTE]I'm not aware of that particular reference. Could you post it please, or give me a cite that I can look up?