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Old Fri Mar 10, 2006, 10:56am
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Originally posted by IRISHMAFIA
What an "illegal substitute"
LOL... but, I was referencing the NFHS book at the time, which does use the term in the rule I referenced! Maybe the author of that must discussed ASA question was WMB???
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Originally posted by IRISHMAFIA
Part of the problem here is whether #10 is batting for #3 or for #9 in the wrong position. Tom is correct in that without reporting as a sub for #9, the umpire must assume you now have an IP. OTOH, to make life a little easier on yourself and less guesswork, you could ask #10, "just who were you supposed to be going in for?" If s/he says #9, than you just have the US and BOO. Or the coach is going to come out screaming, "what the hell you talking about, the FLEX can bat for the DP!" Ha! Back to the US and BOO ruling.

But the IP takes precedence if no other info is known. And yes, I forgot to rule the IP out in my original response.
In the information given, there is no BOO, so B3 is not out (my other disagreement with your response). She has been replaced in the lineup with the IP, so she may re-enter (eventually, her time at bat is gone) if she has re-entry privileges.

Generally, I do not police the batters as they come to bat. If they come to bat in the wrong order or unannounced, that will go by without notice from me as PU. If there has been no notice that the FLEX is entering for DP, then the assumption by rule is that she is entering unannouced into the batting order for the next batter due up.

Who is the next up in this scenario? I tend toward keeping it simple. The previous batter was #2. She was not appealed as BOO, so her at bat is legal. Therefore, FLEX is assumed to have entered for #3.

OTOH, if the coach DOES announce the FLEX entering to bat for DP, then this would be BOO. Or, if the coach attempts to announce FLEX entering for #3, I would point out to him that he can't do that.

There can't be both a BOO penalty and an IP penalty. The IP takes precedence.
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