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Originally posted by Hawks Coach
JR
On your backcourt scenario, no I wouldn't call self-pass, it's an NBA rule. I wouldn't call a travel either, because from your description, the ball had to hit the floor before the player regained it in the front court. So we have the start of a dribble, which is fine. No backcourt violation either because the player is front court when he retrieves the ball. But if he grabs the ball and then proceeds to dribble in the front court, I hope you have a double dribble!
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Coach,this play then equates back to the previous play that was on the OOB line.You said in your own words on that one that the player going OOB was going one way and the ball was going the other,before he threw it back.It's almost physically impossible to throw the ball back in,get stopped,turn around,and get back in bounds to touch the ball before it hits the floor.That's why in both cases it's a legal play,whether it's tapped back in or thrown back in from the OOB line or the 10 second line.If he could have immediately dribbled,then there would have been no loss of player control--and therefore no interrupted dribble.You are 100% correct, and it's a great point that you brought up about the double dribble violation.By rule,the dribble was started in both cases by throwing or tipping the ball to the court.The dribble ended when the player grabbed the ball with both hands.He can pass or hold, but he can't dribble again.You understand the concepts involved better than a lot of officials,especially the newer ones.Btw,even though a knowledgeable coach is a dangerous coach,I don't think that you'll ever have to worry about an official puking on your shoes(biiig grin).