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Originally posted by Damian
My first response had a typo in it. I meant to say "While the ball is in bounds", not out of bounds and the player is holding the ball. Sorry for the mistake. But, the rest still remains.
If the person is in bounds and has not taken the ball out of bounds how can he be the thrower? He may toss it to a teammate to throw in, or wait before taking the ball out of bounds to become the thrower. The ball is still dead and either team can call a timeout. Now, if he delays, and the official starts the 5 second count, then at that time the ball is considered live and only the offensive team can call the timeout.
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Forget about
who the thrower is. It's completely irrelevant. You can have several throwers after a made basket.
Rule 6-7-2(b) sez that the ball becomes
live when it's at the disposal of the thrower. In the case book play already cited(6.1.2SitB(a)), the ball is
in-bounds and is at the disposal of the thrower. The RULING sez that the ball becomes live at that time and
NO time-out can be granted to the
scoring team. Note also the sentence in the COMMENT that sez "The covering official shall start his/her throw-in count when it is determined that the ball is
available". Not "out-of-bounds", Damian,
"available". That sentence holds true for all non-designated spot throw-ins.
Iow, you're completely ignoring what's written in the books. In practise, it's true that most officials (including myself) will wait for whoever picks the ball up to get OOB before starting a 5-second count. But....most officials in my experience also won't grant a TO request by the scoring team if it's made
after someone on the throwing team has grabbed the ball- unless the ball had bounced up-court and there was gonna be an unusual delay getting it OOB.