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Originally posted by Richard Ogg
If the player simply shifts his weight wrong and is losing his balance, the ball never bounces funny, but he steps OOB and then returns, allows the ball to bounce more than once, and then.... I struggle with that play. I cannot find a provision to justify an interrupted dribble. (I have seen this play, but fortunately I was not officiating the game.)
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If the ball momentarily gets away from the dribbler, it's an interrupted dribble. The dribble doesn't have to hit a knee or leg to be interrupted. When in doubt, rule no player control.
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Originally posted by crew
hawkscoach,
very difficult question! but i am going to say violation.
why? an interupted dribble in this scenario is still part of a dribble. which would refer back to the dribble rule(though no player control) identified earlier. this is my reasoning, a player dribbles loses control for a second then regains the ball by 1) catching the ball or 2) continuing the dribble. legal in both cases. in the 1st scenario he cannot dribble again because he has already used his dribble. therefor in your situation (hawks coach) i would deem this a violation. though i am not 100%. this is a good question and i tried to play the situation in my mind and thought violation, even then i called my mentor and asked him verbatim what you asked. he agreed violation after some thought and reasoning.
not all plays are cut and dry, philosophy, reasoning, common sense, and rules come into effect on many plays that are discussed in this forum.
bob,
i do consider that some of my philosophies may be incorrect. i have provided rulings for this situation. you have to put a couple of rules together to get a correct outcome, though there is not a ruling that identifies this play exactly. judgement has to be made, not all situations are black and white.
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Crew, this play is black and white.
Certain things require player control.
A player cannot travel without player control.
While the clock is running, a player cannot request TO without player control.
A player cannot cause the ball to go OOB if he doesn't have player control and he doesn't touch the ball when he is OOB.
Hawks coach is not referring to a double dribble violation. He's referring to an OOB violation. Read 7.1.1c below.
7.1.1 SITUATION C: A1 blocks a pass near the sideline and the ball goes into A1's front court. A1's momentum carries him/her out of bounds. He/she immediately returns inbounds, secures control of the ball, dribbles, shoots, and scores. Ruling: Legal. (4-35-1A; 7-1-2; 9-3)
This is no different than an interrupted dribble. There is no player control in either case.