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Originally posted by carolinaRRREF

no. That's still only 0.38 OPIs per game. And most of those were blatant. <20 of those were of the hand-check variety.

I must be missing something here. There was only 1 OPI call in the Super Bowl. There are about 160-170 plays in the Super Bowl. That would make OPI called less than 1% of all the calls in the game. Sounds pretty consistent to me if we use your logic right?

Originally posted by carolinaRRREF
not at all. He uses his hands and arms to create space to make catches... on pretty much EVERY pass play. And he only got called FIVE times. To lead the league. What's that tell you?

Do you have any evidence that he did it on every play? Do you have evidence that he made contact with a defensive player on every play? Calls also are based on advantage and also if the defender did something. I did not see every NY Giants game, but I did see Burress beat some DBs and there was no contact with anyone.

Originally posted by carolinaRRREF
Randy Moss is famous for pushing off. Why does he do it? Because he gets away with it. Like all receivers do. Sometimes, it's blatant -- when it is, sometimes it's called. Mostly, it's not.

I can tell you do not watch much football. Randy Moss's best route is a fly or go route. He does not go across the middle that much. He is one of the fastest players in the NFL. He goes right by people when he decides to run out the route. Moss was infamous for not even running a route when the play did not call for him to get the pass. I have also seen a lot of passes to Moss where he just outjumps a DB that he is about 6 to 7 inches taller than. He does not have to push off.

Originally posted by carolinaRRREF
My original point remains the same: A call was made that's a judgment call, that by the letter of the law was valid. However, the same play doesn't get called during the regular season 99% of the time, and now it does. By itself, not a big deal. Combined with half a dozen other borderline calls all against the same team, and there's a problem.

If the season average is less than 1 percent and the amount of times it was called in this one game is less than 1 percent, then what you just stated is not only wrong, but you obviously do not know how to use statistics. If the time it was called in this game was over 50%, then you have an argument. You are only percentage points away from calling it. Also, as a non-NFL official that is exposed to HS ball only, I know it does not get called enough because we do not have the balls to call OPI. But if the defender does anything wrong, we call them for penalties all day long and no one thinks anything about it.

Originally posted by carolinaRRREF
In a game as crucial as the Super Bowl, the referees should let the players play. You can argue each call as correct, but when put together, it was a poor job of officiating, because the officials changed the course of the game, which is unfortunate. [/B]

Ten total penalties in an NFL game with all the timing issues and amount of plays is pretty much “letting them play” if you ask me. Letting them play does not mean to turn the other cheek when infractions were made. I can guarantee you that there were many times throughout the game where players were complaining about being held or push offs all over the field.

Also it must be noted that you or I are not in the NFL. You and I have likely not ever had one of our games evaluated on every play no matter what we called or did not call. You and I have also not seen what the NFL thought were good calls and thought were bad calls in every game these guys work. You might look at some statistical data and think you have the answer, but they see every tape of every game. They know why they are being downgraded. They know why their partners are being downgraded. They are in constant contact with the NFL on what they did wrong and they get to see things from other official's games to determine what a trend is and what needs to be tightened on. Now I have only seen a couple of videos that the NFL produces for the officials. These guys see this information all the time. And you are going to tell us you know better than they do? I DO NOT THINK SO BUDDY!!! You might be a really good official, but until you get to that point (if you ever get to that point) you will see. I do not think you are in the NFL, so I am not sure how you can tell us what is "technically" right as to what the NFL wants and what is actually a good call.

Peace