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Originally posted by Nevadaref
That was my partner's contention and that is why we charged the flagrant. However, we both agreed that if B1 hadn't hit him, A1's T would not have been flagrant. His shove just didn't rise to the level of violent or savage.
The opponent committed the violent act.
It doesn't seem right to me to make the penalty depend upon the actions of the opponent. I'm really struggling with that.
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Doesn't matter - by rule, even if A1's action had been only verbal, it precipitated the flagrant response by B1 and both get flagrants.