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Old Mon Jan 23, 2006, 03:59am
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Originally posted by RefTN
Well I have read the whole NFHS rule book and casebook, some of the NCAA, and almost all of the NBA. I just don't see how post play should be called different at any level.
Either BS or you are not be a very thorough reader. JR gave you the NFHS POE on this, the post below mentions the CURRENT NCAAW POE on it, and I've added the actual RULE BOOK text of the first part of that POE to end of this post. Happy reading!


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Originally posted by M&M Guy
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Originally posted by bob jenkins
NCAAW (at least) had a "two of anything in the post is a foul" interpretation for a number of years. It's been dropped in favor of a "displacement is a foul" interpretation.
Bob, just fyi - the modification this year in NCAAW: 2 of anything on a post player, in the lane area, without the ball, and their back to the basket, is legal as long as there is no displacement. Once the player has the ball and faces the basket, they have the same status as a dribbler, which means 2 of anything would still be a foul. They added a section on "armbars", and they've also loosened the rules on hand-checking so it's no longer an automatic foul if a defender touches the dribbler.

Bottom line, they still have some specific instructions on how things should be called. On one hand, it feels a little restrictive because it does take a little of the judgement out of the call (any advantage gained?). However, there is some comfort in being able to make a call that's written out in black and white. Sometimes I wish the Fed would do the same. I've heard the howler monkey cry of "That's a hand check!" far too many times whenever a defender touches a dribbler without any advantage or displacement.
2005-06
Points of Emphasis for Women
Displacement
The following guidelines have been established to help coaches, players and officials achieve a level of play that will allow freedom of movement for all players on the court and make the game a free-flowing, exciting game to watch. Officials must enforce these guidelines to ensure that freedom of movement is allowed in the game.
1. DISPLACEMENT AS IT RELATES TO POST PLAY
The following guidelines must be followed by players and called by officials:
a. A post player is defined as an offensive player with or without the ball who has her back to the basket and is either in the lane or just outside the lane. (The lane includes the foul line.) Any player on the court can be a post player as long as they have their back to the basket and are in the lane or just outside the lane.
b. Aplayer with the ball and her back to the basket is not a post player if she is not in the lane or just outside the lane. The defender may not make contact with the arm-bar (forearm that is away from the body) in this situation.
c. A defensive player may place one arm-bar on the offensive post player. Extending the established arm-bar and displacing the opponent is illegal and a foul shall be called.
d. A defensive player may place one hand, with a bend in the elbow on the offensive post player. Extending the arm and locking the elbow and displacing the opponent is illegal and a foul shall be called.
e. Post players may be defended by placing one arm-bar or one hand with a bend in the elbow on the opponent to maintain position, any holding or displacement is illegal and a foul shall be called. Two hands, two arm-bars or an arm-bar and a hand used to hold or displace are illegal and a foul shall be called.
f. A defensive player pushing a leg or knee into the rear of the offensive post player shall be called for a personal foul.
g. An offensive post player may not “back-down” and displace the defender once that defender has established a legal guarding position.
h. The offensive post player may not grab the leg or body of the defender, hook or in any way displace or hold.
i. An offensive post player becomes a ball handler (see ball handler or dribbler guidelines) when she turns and faces the basket with the ball.
j. The offensive post player with or without the ball cannot initiate contact and displace the defender who has established a legal guarding position. (see principle of verticality)
k. Players may attain a position where their bodies are touching each other but only to maintain position. Any attempt to displace an opponent from a position she has legally obtained is a personal foul.
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