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Originally posted by BktBallRef
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Originally posted by blindzebra
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Originally posted by BktBallRef
I'm going with 5.10.1D on this play, which means all the time would have to be put back on the clock. Since .8 would be less than 1 second, based on 5.10.1D, it would not be possible to put .8 back up.
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5.10.1
COMMENT: Timing mistakes which may be corrected are limited to those which result from the timer's neglect to stop or start the clock as specified by the rules. The rules do not permit the referee to correct situations resulting in normal reaction time of the timer which results in a lag in stopping the clock. By interpretation, lag or reaction time is limited to one second when the official's signal is heard and/or seen clearly. One second or the reaction time is interpreted to have elapsed from the time the signal was made until the official glanced at the clock. The additional three seconds which subsequently ran off the clock is considered a timing mistake.
What we do know was that the official saw the request and THEN looked at the clock.
We don't know if the official blew his whistle or not, but if the sequence was TO, whistle, look at clock by rule lag time is interpreted as the time it took the official to look at the clock, so it does not need to be a second.
The one second of lag time is only locked in as one second if the official was looking at the clock at the time the whistle blows, which is what situation D says. That did not happen in this case as written.
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Yes, but how do we KNOW that only 1 second ticked off? I don't deny that that's a possibility but the truth is we don't know what happened.
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And I don't know for sure which order it happened in. I didn't ask enough questions to get all the details. But let me throw out another consideration. The way the crowd errupted, I could barely hear the horn. What if the whistle cannot be heard? I don't suppose that changes anything? Still have to allow for lag time, and if it's see request, whistle, look at clock you can still count that as the lag time, but if it's see request, look at clock, whistle, but there is less than one second you have to account for lag time and let the clock run out?
BTW, does this have anything to do with why they stop the clock after made baskets in the NCAA? To allow for these kinds of time out requests without having to fuss with the clock?
[Edited by back in the saddle on Jan 21st, 2006 at 11:17 PM]