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That's the separation I was talking about.
Instead of runners and bases, think of them as items you need to tag and if you need to tag them with the secuerly held ball, then the time frame is the same.
If the ball pops out as a result of tagging the object, you can't have an out. Freaky things like "what if the fielder tage the base with his glove at the same time the runner steps on his glove and the ball pops out?" require the umpire's judgement.
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