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Old Sat Jan 14, 2006, 04:06pm
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Originally posted by refTN
Quote:
Originally posted by BktBallRef
" The foul causes the ball to come out of A1's hands. Still on the way up (in the act of shooting), A1 repossesses the ball in midair (the ball has not touched the ground) and puts the ball in the basket."

The ball touching the floor is just one way the try ends. It also ends when it's certain the throw is unsuccessful. The shot ended when he lost control of the ball.

4-41-4
The try ends when the throw is successful, when it is certain the throw is unsuccessful, when the thrown ball touches the floor or when the ball becomes dead.
I don't get what you are saying. You just explained what has to happen for a try to end and in this case none of those are present. The kid regains possession in midair therefore it is NOT certain that the try has ended, and since he ragains in midair and is still considered in the act of shooting he can finish the play. This is just like a kid going in for a lay-up, getting hit on the arm, fumbling the ball and still putting it in the hole.

Count the basket and shoot one FT.
A try ends when it is certain that it won't go in, by rule(4-19-4). When A1 grabbed the ball again after it was knocked out of his hands, it sureasheck was certain that the first try couldn't go in; iow the original try ended at that point. The ball also became dead when that try ended because of the foul. When A1 put it up again, he was putting a dead ball in the basket.

And yes, if a kid going in for a lay-up is hit on the arm, fumled the ball and then shot after recovering the fumble, that throw with a dead ball is no good either. His original "try" ended with the fumble caused by the foul.

Completely wrong interpretation, RefTN. Gotta know those definitions.

[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Jan 14th, 2006 at 04:10 PM]
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