Quote:
Originally posted by ronny mulkey
Quote:
Originally posted by zebraman
Quote:
Originally posted by ronny mulkey
Tomegun,
I am curious - how many offball calls do you make a game? I'm not just curious because it is you or this post. I am just curious as to the number of offball calls made by all officials per game.
Doesn't the NBA or somebody track these kinds of numbers? I have heard that it is a very low number. If the number is low and it is not because of mechanics that the NBA is already stressing, then you might look for mechanics to change in the future about offball calls. That might lead to a less restrictive philosophy on going to help on calls made on the ball. I betcha the numbers made, and missed, of calls on the ball far outweigh all other calls.
It just seems to me that the NBA is a forward thinking trend setter when it comes to training their officials. They are years ahead of college and high school, but a lot of their research ends up trickling down to the high school level.
Just my opinion.
Mulk
|
Are you serious? You think that because there aren't as many offball calls as onball calls that the philosophy might change to let officials start calling anywhere on the court. Please! Offball fouls are the ones that lead to fights. They are the ones that lead to rough play that is always a POE.
The whole point of 3-person is for officials to call in THEIR area and see the whole play. If we're just going to have all officials watching all over the court and call on-ball, we can just go back to 2 officials. Tomegun is right, some of this justification for "getting the play right" is starting to get absurd and sound like an excuse for being a ball watcher.
Z
|
Z,
Yes, I am serious. Why are you so adamant that you are right about helping in these situations? Is it because someone at camp told you you shouldn't make a call from lead out past the f. throw line? Or, is it that you truly believe you can't get a call right from there? Or, is it just the mechanics that you have been taught as of this date? Do you believe in double whistles? Triple whistles?I'm not saying that that the philosophy might CHANGE to let officials call over the floor - I'm saying that it is already in place. I'm also saying that mechanics and philosophies DO change ALL THE TIME. When they change, will your opinion change?
You never answered the question - how many offball calls per game do you make on the average? BTW, I happen to agree with you on this situation and it is because that is the way that I have been taught - today.
Mulk
|
Having started in this sport almost 20 years ago, I have seen LOTS of things change. The one I laugh the most about is how we used to cross over the floor during a live ball to "get in the Cadillac" position. Can't believe we EVER did that. Now we only do that when the T and C miss a rotation....
One thing I don't think will EVER change -- we will always stress working in a primary of some kind. Will those areas change? Quite possibly -- there is quite a difference between primary areas for the lead in NCAAW than there are in NCAAM, for example. But we will never expect officials to reach and call fouls in another official's primary.