The plate umpires only responsibility at third, in this play, is the touch of R2, at third.
I was speaking of my belief at the time of the play. After the play happened, I went back to the red book and realized that I was wrong about the PU responsibilities. I also reread (a couple of times) the part that describes the double play mechanic with R2, R1.
But it sure sounded good to the head coach ;-)
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Originally posted by SanDiegoSteve
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Originally posted by Kaliix
My belief at the time was that I thought I had the call right and that my partner was likely not looking at the play because he would have responsibilities at third. When the coach politely asked later in between innings why I wouldn't ask my partner for help, I told him about his responsibilities at third and that I didn't think he would be looking. He bought the explanation.
Well as it turns out, my partner was looking and didn't break for third (he is newer than me) and when I asked him at the end of the inning if I he saw the play, he said that he had a great look at it and that the first baseman wasn't even close to having his foot on the bag. I pressed him and asked if he was sure, he repeated that he had a good look and his foot was obviously off the bag.
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Kaliix, I am curious as to what responsibilities the PU had up at third base? If F6 threw to F4, who turned a double play, the PU's responsibility is first to watch for interference at 2B. His secondary responsibility is to watch the play at 1B in case of a pulled foot or swipe tag. His next job would be to see the touch of R2 at 3B, but that is relatively unimportant compared to the other two. Once the out at 2B was recorded, the PU no longer has a possible play at 3B, unless a run down occurs between home and third. The PU should have been watching the post-play at 2B, then his attention should have turned to the play at 1B. He should have done all of this from just out in front of the plate, as he has R2 if and when he advances to home.
Please help me picture what the PU would have been doing down at third in this situation. The BU has all calls on R2 at 3B. If the BR was judged safe on your appeal, the PU would have R2 in any rundown which ensued, and you would take the BR.
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