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Originally posted by LDUB
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Originally posted by SanDiegoSteve
When Marcus Giles played Pony League, he did a Pete Rose take-out of the catcher. I mean he flew horizontal like Superman into this kid and knocked him into next week. He dislodged the ball, and was safe. I called him safe, then said, "Marcus, you're done, you know you can't do that." This game was played with OBR, with a slide or avoid Fed style rule. The only difference was that he was safe and gone, instead of out and gone, as he would have been under Fedlandia.
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How old are the players in the Pony league? 13, 14 or so right?
So you know the players of these random teams well enough to call them by name when you eject them?
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You like calling him safe and ejecting him over calling him out?
Say bottom of last inning, score is tied. Marcus is R3, and is trying to score after a caught fly ball to the outfield. F2 gets the ball well before Marcus is there. Marcus knows he will be out, his only chance is to plow over the catcher. He knocks the catcher over, is called safe and ejected. Who knows how bad the catcher got hurt.
In your Pony game, he is safe and ejected, but the game is over. So there is actually no penalty at all. In the Federation game, he is out, the run doesn't score. Shouldn't that be the way it is? How can you reward someone for running over the catcher?
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First, I had umpired Brian Giles in high school already, and know his parents quite well, and already knew Marcus from previous games. And, his dad was the coach. Also, when you are working high school, and there are scouts and representatives from major league teams in attendance, you tend to know who they are coming there to see. I know talent when I see it. It is an accepted fact that more pro ball players come from either Florida or California, than from any other state in the U.S. The fact that I mention a particular name of a player in my examples is my business. I certainly wouldn't mind if others listed the pro ball players that they officiated on the way up. I just makes one feel as though they may have had a very small role in that player's overall development. They may have learned a lesson, such as Marcus Giles may have on the day I ejected him. Now he probably wants to knock every catcher's teeth out when there is a play at the plate.
As far as that play at the plate goes, that is the way we were told to call it. Every league had different local rules, and this particular Pony league, at that time, said that the result of the play stands, but the offender is ejected. And ejected players could not play in their teams next game, so even if the play occurred on the last play of the game, the ejection had meaning. And, it was really pretty, if you like plays at the plate.
And, back in the Stone Age, when I played Pony league, we had no slide rules, or any other safety rules, Hell, our parents didn't even have to put us in seat belts in the car. Nobody gave two sh*ts about our safety in those days. Old School. Go play in the freeway. Children should be seen and not heard. You get the drift...