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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by refTN
This is what I mean by the upward shooting motion. If this kid in HS gets fouled after he has gathered the ball and is still on his right foot then proceeds to step with the left and finish the hoop, I believe by high school rule you cannot award this basket.
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You believe wrong under both high school and NCAA rules.
Bob Jenkins gave the simplest and best answer above as to how the play is supposed to be called under NFHS and NCAA rules. He said "Gathering the ball in both hands is the start of the habitual throwing motion". That's what you look for, that's the way it's supposed to be called (even in the ...wait for it...SEC  ), and that's the way that this play has been taught since I've been around.
Forget about "steps" by the shooter unless he travels. Look for the shooter grabbing the ball with both hands. That starts a "try" under all rulesets.
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We have had this discussion before. Bob's guidleine is as good as it gets. When a kid goes in for a layup and has picked up the ball, the kid has two choices Shoot or Pass. If they did not pass they were probably shooting.
You will never find an "upward motion" in the book. Continuous motion as mentioned is the habitual motion as part of a try or shot (or something close) What is the habitual motion? Picking up the ball on the drive.
The other aprt of the pet peeve of mine is "on the floor".. what does that mean? The foul was before the shot or it was not. Players can be on the floor and still shott..