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Originally posted by BigUmp56
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Originally posted by WhatWuzThatBlue
"Pete,
The reason the correct mechanic in this situation is to signal safe, is so as to not alert the defense of the miss of the base.
So what do you do when the runner crosses the plate but misses home? He crosses and misses, the other team knows it but the ball is still in the outfield and the runner is being mobbed by his teammates for scoring the lead run. Do you still signal safe or do you make no signal and "alert the defense" that he missed the plate? Maybe you just ignore it and make the "expected call". I like the players to make the expected play.
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WWTB,
It would depend on whether their was a force at the plate, no play at the plate, or a tag attempt at the plate on which mechanic to use. I suspect you already know this though.
On a force play at the plate, the umpire should signal safe if the runner beats the throw, even if the runner missed the plate, and wait for the appeal. The same mechanic should be used when there is no play at the plate. The "no call" at the plate is for a runner that misses the plate and the catcher misses the tag.
If you wan't to keep bringing up the "expected call" in each of your posts, I suggest you just put it in the form of a sig. We all know by now how you feel about this type of call. You won't change my mind, and I won't change your mind. Lets just A2D and move on.
Tim.
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Tim, I have to go with WWTB on this one. The safe signal when missing the base mechanic is only used at first base. The play at the plate is a different kettle of fish. You don't want to signal safe when the runner misses home plate, since he has no obligation to return to the plate, unlike the BR at first base. If you do not signal safe on the BR at first, F3 will pick up on it immediately and gain an unfair advantage over the BR, who has to return to first. A runner who misses home, on the other hand will either head to his dugout, or try to return to the plate to touch it. If you call him safe, the runner may think that he did touch the plate, and not try to return, and the catcher may believe the same thing, and not try to tag the runner for the appeal. Is any of this making sense? It's late, and I'm a bit punchy.
Anyhow, the proper mechanic for the runner missing home plate is no signal or call until the action is over. Much like the mechanic for oversliding at 2nd or 3rd.