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Originally posted by BigUmp56
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Originally posted by WhatWuzThatBlue
"Pete,
The reason the correct mechanic in this situation is to signal safe, is so as to not alert the defense of the miss of the base.
When a runner beats the ball to the bag, and misses the base as he passes it, he is in fact considered safe until the defense makes an unmistakeable appeal. On a close play like this, you would signal one way or another had the runner touched the base. If you don't signal anything, you're alerting the defense that somethings amiss."
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So what do you do when the runner crosses the plate but misses home? He crosses and misses, the other team knows it but the ball is still in the outfield and the runner is being mobbed by his teammates for scoring the lead run. Do you still signal safe or do you make no signal and "alert the defense" that he missed the plate? Maybe you just ignore it and make the "expected call". I like the players to make the expected play.
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WWTB,
It would depend on whether their was a force at the plate, no play at the plate, or a tag attempt at the plate on which mechanic to use. I suspect you already know this though.
On a force play at the plate, the umpire should signal safe if the runner beats the throw, even if the runner missed the plate, and wait for the appeal. The same mechanic should be used when there is no play at the plate. The "no call" at the plate is for a runner that misses the plate and the catcher misses the tag.
If you wan't to keep bringing up the "expected call" in each of your posts, I suggest you just put it in the form of a sig. We all know by now how you feel about this type of call. You won't change my mind, and I won't change your mind. Lets just A2D and move on.
Tim.
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Do you own a TV? If the runner misses the plate on any of those plays, the home plate umpire does not signal safe and then reverse it on appeal. He stands there and waits for the action to end, then makes his call. It happened dozens of times this past season. By a highlight tape and watch the plays at the plate.
Bases loaded and the ball is hit to deep short, R3 misses the plate but is there five steps ahead of the throw to home. The catcher steps on the plate as he catches the late throw. What do you call?
Do you signal "Safe" on every runner crossing the plate, even those that aren't played on? That is what you wrote.