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Old Fri Nov 11, 2005, 07:45pm
Camron Rust Camron Rust is offline
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Originally posted by tomegun
This is an intentional foul since a player will not accidentally grab a fist full of jersey.
Look who showed up again just in time for the season!

BTW, I agree that grabbing the shirt is an intentional foul ANYTIME during the game ANYWHERE on the court.

Do you also call an intentional foul when B1 grabs A1's arm, shoulder, etc. or when A1 is going up for a shot and B1 fouls then continues to hang on to ensure A1 can't complete the shot?
Yes.

I don't think that the FED has changed their focus on intentional fouls one bit since they explained them in another POE in the 2000-01 rulebook. The points that the FED made then included- verbatim:

Acts that must be deemed intentional include:
- grabbing a player from behind.
- wrapping the arms around a player
- grabbing/holding a player by the jersey in order to impede their progress.

The FED laid out in that POE exactly how they wanted intentional fouls called. They have issued nothing since then that would change those points.
I agree in the general sense but can imagine a jersey grab that is no more deserving of an intentional foul than the alternatives I've described. I was merely pointing out that the non-accidental nature of the foul is not relevant to the call and that there are cases of contact more deserving that never get call becasue they don't have a black/white edict tied to them.

I again ask (no to you but others who hold the jersey grab = intentional view), would a player grabbing/holding an opponents arm be an intentional. If not, why?
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