Thu Nov 10, 2005, 02:19pm
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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Originally posted by PWL
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Originally posted by SanDiegoSteve
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Originally posted by PWL
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Originally posted by Rich Ives
There is no need for debate. The answer is right in the rules.
7.08 e) He fails to reach the next base before a fielder tags him or the base, after he has been forced to advance by reason of the batter becoming a runner. However, if a following runner is put out on a force play, the force is removed and the runner must be tagged to be put out. The force is removed as soon as the runner touches the base to which he is forced to advance, and if he overslides or overruns the base, the runner must be tagged to be put out. However, if the forced runner, after touching the next base, retreats for any reason towards the base he had last occupied, the force play is reinstated, and he can again be put out if the defense tags the base to which he is forced;
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This is for oversliding or overrunning the base, and the runner reaches the next base before a fielder tags him or the base. The proper mechanic is for the BU to call safe on a play like this. The defense should then appeal to BU that runner missed base. They can do this by either touching the missed base with ball or by simply tagging the runner before he returns to base. BU will then give the out signal.
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Wrong PWL,
Re-read the question. Rich's answer is correct. The force is reinstated when R1 retreated back towards first. Color that runner out on the force.
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I believe you are wrong. It says after touching the next base and retreating the force is reinstated. Where did I say anyone touched a base. In your haste to make judgment, you erred. Thanks for playing. What do we have for out contestants today?
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I'll play!
You responded to Rich by telling him that the rule he cited did not apply here. Rich cited the exact rule and went so far as to embolden the text that was applicable to the question that was asked. You said that the rule he cited was for over running or oversliding a base. Where you came up with that, I don't know. It had nothing to do with the initial question. Then you went on to discuss this as an appeal play. In this you are wrong as well. This is not the proper mechanic for oversliding the base or over running the base. You referring to the mechanic used for a missed base, which this is not.
Tim.
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