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Originally posted by Ref in PA
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by Ref in PA
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At some point, based on the positioning of A1 and B1 and the paths they have chosen, LGP could be established (according to rule book definition) will come into play unless B1 runs over A1 from behind. If the foul is on A1, LGP was established momentarily before the contact, if the foul was on B1, then LGP was lost or never obtained prior to contact.
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Do those blanket criteria hold even if the dribbler pushes off with an arm? [/B]
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I am not quite sure what you are getting at, but I will attempt to answer.
In my mind (or what is left in it) the guarding position is important for determining block/charge contact. I think we can agree that a push from the arm of A1 while dribbling will be a foul on A1. B1 does not have to have LGP to receive a push from A1 - they could be moving in parallel paths.
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B1 can draw a charge without ever having LGP. LGP only gives B1 the priviledge of jumping or moving in certain directions at the time of contact. If B1 falls for a pump fake from outside is standing in the middle of the lane waiting for a rebound while A1 runs down the lane and knocks him over, I've got a charge. B1 never had LGP on A1 but is stationary and was to the spot first.