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				Originally posted by WyMike  
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				Originally posted by BulldogMcC  
But in your original post you said you had a spot for forward progress. 
			
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 BulldogMC I had the runner in view, or at least his lower torso/legs and I could confirm it as he had taped his ankles/shoes. So I knew where the runners forward progress had stopped, but I didn't know where the ball was and couldn't see over or around to the other side of the pile. So I felt with my partners coming in, they might have an angle on the ball and blow. Between myself, WH, U and BJ we had the play boxed in okay as far as my wing was concerned. Why no one didn't see B on the ground with the ball, who knows, it just happened that way. 
 
Plus, I don't think any of want to "assume" a player has the ball when we start to hit the Fox40. We want to "know" where the ball is, right? 
 
But back to my original question, No Ball - No Whistle? Just like your sig!   
 
WM 
			
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 I agree, but forward progess requires that I know the runner still has the ball.  I cannot call what I cannot see.  I am only advocating thinking about hitting the whistle if you are holding a FP spot as you are already saying, "I had the runner's FP stopped here." which is a definition dead ball.  Personally I would either hold my spot for forward progress and hit the whistle, or more likely, stay lateral with the play and keep looking for the ball.  If anyone *****es tell them you lost sight of the ball at the X yard line in team Y's possession and didn't want to blow an IW.  That should shut up all but the slowest Rs.