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Old Wed Sep 07, 2005, 07:05am
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In this type of forum, it is almost impossible to paint a picture of what the violation would be. This is a play that you have to see to call because it is a judgement call. I have seen refs call a play that other refs would let go. Each ref makes that decision in the moment the play happens. Most refs will not call a violation in the open floor with no pressure, but I have seen some refs call it.

I almost always call a carry if the offensive player does a double move - fake one way, fake the other, go back to the original direction - all while the ball is in contact with the hand. But again, you have to see the play because many single move fakes could be carries also. The palm does not have to be under the ball for it to come to rest in the hand.
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