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Originally posted by ljudge
We had a discussion tonight in our referee's position meeting as I want to make sure we're in sync how we call this........
Play...4th and 4 and offense for the first time in the game (2nd Qtr) shifts from hands on knees VERY QUICKLY to a 3-point stance in an effort to draw the defense into the neutral zone. And as they quickly shift a few members of the O-line kind of grunts out loud as they do it. Defense encroaches. What do you have?
I know the rule (I think its 7.1.7 b) but do you call it in your respective area?
In my rookie season I came to the WH and told him I had defense and he looked at me like I had 10 heads. Of course the little cocky rookie who new the rules and rule reference number tried to help the referee understand why he was wrong. Well low and behold we went with encroachment defense gave team A a 1st down. I went back to my Line Judge position with my tail between my legs.
What I didn't realize at the time is we consider this legal. What do you do in your states?
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If you convinced the R, why did you go back with your tail between your legs?
I think the relevant rule is 7-1-7a & 7-1-7b. Regardless of which one you use, this sounds like a false start on A. Unless my U says, "Well, I was watching my keys and it was obviously a shift to me and not simulating a start." would I think this was encroachment and not a false start.