Thu Aug 25, 2005, 02:56pm
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In Memoriam
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Hell
Posts: 20,211
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Originally posted by mdray
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
Ok, next set of questions.
#1) During the opening jump ball, A1 catches the tossed ball. Official blows the whistle and awards the ball to team B As soon as the ball is touched inbounds the scorer sets the poss. arrow in the direction of team A's basket. Is the official correct? The key says "yes", but isn't the arrow set when the ball is at the disposal of the inbounder?
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1)The arrow is only set when the ball is at the disposal of the inbounder if the violation on the opening jump occurred before a player gained control-as per R4-3-3(a). In this case, the violation and player control were simultaneous. That means that it now becomes an AP violation and R6-4-4 becomes the applicable rule. Iow, the correct answer is "yes".
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The violation & player control can't be ruled simultaneous because 4-12-1 says "there is no player control when, during a jump ball, a jumper catches the ball prior to the ball touching the floor or a non-jumper."
In the 2002 - 2003 rulebook, (the year this rule was changed) - see 6.3.1, situations C & E -- sit C has Chuck's test question (in the current book, it's 6.4.1sitC); and the ruling in situation E is that, when the ball is in the possession of the thrower of team B, team B has gained control (worded poorly IMO) for purposes of establishing the AP procedure, and the arrow is immediately pointed in the direction of A's basket.
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Yup, that's true. I was wrong. IAABO was wrong also- for whatever the hell that's worth. Good catch.
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