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Originally posted by rainmaker
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Originally posted by Camron Rust
#2...violation. It left the hand as a fumble.
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Does that matter?
If the ball touches the hand after it has fc stus before the player has given up his bc status...
Let's try this again. If the player fumbles the ball as opposed to beginning a dribble, and the ball touches in the fc, even though the player still has a foot in the bc...
I mean, I would think that if he was straddling the line when he caught the pass, he'd have to lift his bc foot before he touched the ball after the fumble...
Wow, this is incredibly difficult to express. I've tried like a zillion times and it keeps coming out weird.
Okay, A2 is straddling the division line. A1, in bc, passes the ball to A2. A2 tries to catch the ball. A2 clearly fumbles the ball into the front court. At this point, A2 has bc status, ball has fc status. A2 must lift his bc foot before touching the ball again. I agree with you on that.
But suppose A2 clearly catches the ball. Now, he begins a dribble with the first bounce in the fc. That's still a violation if he touches the ball with his bc foot still on the floor, right? Even though the ball didn't leave the hand as a fumble, but as a dribble? So it doesn't matter how it left the hand, if it touches the fc first, and A2 is still touching in bc, it's a violation, right?
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Yes. It matters how the ball leaves the player's hand.
The dribble begins when the ball is released. During a dribble, the ball might not gain FC status when it bounces. Both feet must touch in the frontcourt before the ball achieves FC status during a dribble that starts from the backcourt. Since the player is straddling the line, the player and the ball retain BC status and can fully retreat into the backcourt.
If released as a fumble, the ball has FC status the moment it bounces.