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Originally posted by oc
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Originally posted by M&M Guy
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Originally posted by Love this Game
I just dont understand how you would have a doulbe foul on this one.
Either a block or a charge. There is no way you have both.
And yes someone would have ate there whistle.
First rule is when you hear another whistle, find that person who made that call with eye contact. And if you have to discuss it discuss it quickly and make the right all.
I think in that situation a double foul is a bail out call.
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I guess I'll jump in here before some of the more curmudgeonly people do...
The reason it's a double foul is because that exact play is listed in the casebook, and that is how we are told to call it. 4.19.7(c). If one official signals a block, and the other official signals a charge, it results in a double personal. It also says "Even though airborne shooter A1 committed a a charging foul, it is not a player-control foul because the two fouls result in a double personal foul". The basket counts, and you go to an AP throw-in. Try to explain to B's coach why you called a foul on the shooter A1, but the basket still counts, AND A gets the ball back as well because they happen to have the arrow.
Obviously, you and your partners want to avoid this. The best way to avoid it is to learn how to just hold up a fist, rather than making the signal quickly on the spot. We can get together and come out with a single call, we can make eye contact with our partner and either give it up or come in strong and say, "I'll take it!". These all need to be pre-gamed. But, the casebook tells us specifically what to do if there are conflicting signals. So, we can't just say we won't do it because we don't like it. What if I don't like when the warning horns for timeouts are? I don't get to do something different just because I don't think it's fair. So, if you don't want to call a double foul in this situation, don't call two different fouls.
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Exactly. I think some people who disagreed on calling a double foul missed the part of the post where 2 officials signaled opposing calls without checking with each other first. If you are doing things properly and holding your call until you checked that you are both on the same page-fine no double foul. But if you have mistakenly both signaled-then you have to go with the double foul 'Blarge'.
-thanks to those who pointed out my faulty administration of the penalty. I was thinking of 4.19.8 (false double foul).
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Yes you are right and my main concern is this, and this is something you learn and master with time.
And i understand what the case book says if you both signal, but you have to be observant enough to se your partners hand go up. Or hear that whistle and say delay that signal until you and your partner have made eye contact.
Normally one of you saw what happend first. Especially if the play is coming toward the L and the T calls it with the L.
I am not and never will go against what it says in the case book or rule book, I just gues i am talking more abt communication with your partners.