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Old Mon Aug 08, 2005, 11:49am
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Originally posted by EMD

Have you ever called the Phantom Double Play? If so, what where the circumstances? The reason I’m asking is that some post describe a longing for the traditions of baseball to return, and the PDP is one of the "Unwritten Rules" that I have not witnessed in a long time. What do you think?

I disagree with what has been said so far and IMO, the theory "When a runner is OUT they are OUT" still exists no matter what rule code you are playing under.

In other words, every pitch is a STRIKE until proven otherwise.

Same is true with the "neighborhood play" or the "phantom tag"

If the player is out "by a mile" then the defense needs to proove to you that the runner is safe, meaning

The defense makes a bad throw pulling F4/F6 off the bag. If that's the case, then we need to SEE the touch of the base on the part of either F4/F6, however, if the throw "is on the money" and F4/F6 are in the vicinity or "neighborhood" as we say of the bag, then we have an out.

Same is true concerning the phantom tag. 1. Player out "by a mile" (good margin), good throw and tag where it should be = OUT.

In Summary; When a runner is out they are out and the defense needs to proove to you otherwise.

Side Note: Do not confuse the "neigborhood play" or "phantom tag" with close plays or bang bang. We are talking about instances where the runner is CLEARLY out.

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