Thu Jul 28, 2005, 01:51pm
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Originally posted by Rich Fronheiser
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Originally posted by Dave Hensley
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Originally posted by SoCalUmp
In any College or HS level game if you declaired a forfeit over a coach not leaving the field you are as a big of a fuc*ing schmuck as all of your posts lead me to believe. Even in youth ball are you really going to take a game away from kids over one idiot? Go back to your tball games "Charlie".
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As I was skimming this flamefest, I came across this comment and have to ask, what exactly is your suggestion for dealing with an ejected rat who won't leave the field?
I've had high school and college-level training, and associate with a number of veteran umpires, and I think I'm pretty safe in saying the consensus among the umpires I'm familiar with is that standard procedure for an ejected rat who won't leave the field is to tell him he's risking a forfeit for his team.
So please enlighten me - what IS the proper way of handling an ejected participant who refuses to leave the field?
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Ah, Dave, he used "Charlie." That's code for "I went to pro school."
But I can tell him that *I* wouldn't be the one taking the game awaty from the kids, it's the coach that's doing that by his failure to leave.
At the end of the day, forfeit is really the only recourse for somebody who WILL NOT LEAVE. I read Peter's response and that is simply too tiring -- with some teams I'd have to stand there and eject 7-8 players before I could get to 8. What I would do before forfeiting is go to the assistant coaches and tell them that either they remove the coach or I'm going to remove them. Once that's over, there's no adult supervision and the game's forfeited. I may skip that step, if necessary.
Then again, where I live there's no central assignor, so I do what I feel necessary. Of course, I've never forfeited a baseball game, so...
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I've been waiting to use the line I got from a mutual friend of ours - "Coach, either you or I are leaving the premises directly. If it's me, then they (pointing to his team) lose."
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