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Old Wed Jul 27, 2005, 11:58am
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Originally posted by Matthew F
This stitch happened 5 years ago before the "Get it right at all costs" mentality really took hold - we did go for "help" on check-swings and swipe-tags or a pulled-foot at 1B, but that was pretty much the extent.

Over 40 league, OBR. R2 on 2B, 1 out. BR hit a deep fly to F8. BU in position for catch and tag up; I'm moving to 3B for possible play. R2 leaves before F8 catches the ball and beats the throw to 3B easily. Defense appeals to BU, but BU calls him safe. The defense then appeals to me and I tell them that the call is the BU's and that I had to get into position for the play at 3B - the BU's call stands.

I know without a doubt that R2 left early - I think the only person on or near the field who didn't know it was the BU. The UIC of the umpire association said I did the right thing, which provided some relief.

Granted this happened several years ago, should a stich this, nowadays, be discussed between the umpires to get the correct call? I find this stitch akin to having the PU call a strike on a check swing and then the BU overruling the PU saying that the batter didn't go - taboo in my world.
First of all Matt, this ""Get it right at all costs" mentality " is based on the premise that we are starting with competent officials that based upon the information available, WILL get the call right in almost EVERY instance.

When due to circumstances beyond their control, they are not able to get all the information necessary to make the correct decision, then they should be knowedgeable enough to ask for help.

I agree, this is different than the mentality that previously took place, and that was "this is my call, too bad, live with it."

Now you have already been schooled on the correct mechanic by Tim and Rich. If your partner was not knowledgeable to realize his discision was incorrect, than your stuck with what you got.
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