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Originally posted by SAump
Everyone on this thread states that F3 missed the tag because the B/R violated the tag 3-foot rule. That point is clear, and NO longer needs to be discussed! Please don't answer with another 3-foot rule discusion. If my first assumption is wrong, then logically part of my third assumption is invalid (OOO-ya-OUT).
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Correct assumption. Given that, I'm not sure why we need the rest of the discussion. There's nothing in the rules that indicates, "A runner is out when he goes out of his established basepath by more than three feet to avoid a tag, except ...."
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I said, so far alone, that the tag rule does NOT APLLY on a FORCE PLAY at 1B. WHY? It is a disadvantage for the runner not to slide. Forget the interference play, the running lane is established to protect the first baseman from a B/R spikes during a slide/step and other serious BLOWS! This was recognized by Ty Cobb and is not treated under the same scenario at the other bases. It is a force play, no-tag rule at 1B, SAFE!
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Wrong analysis. Apparently it *is* an advantage for the runner -- that's why he was "safe" on hte play in the video.
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I said, so far alone, that F3 missed the tag because a throwing ERROR by F6 pulled F3 off the base and away from the running lane. As a result he was in a poor position to tag a very agile B/R. This also happens on errant throws to other bases. A runner may take an inside route as the catcher is fielding the ball to the outside, far more than this 3-foot BS and SLIDE.
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You are correct that the poor throw led to the play. Bit, that's not relevant. And, at the "other bases" you mentioned, while the feet might move more that 3' form the path, part of the body does not -- that's how the runner grabs the base with the hand (as in one of your examples)
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I said, so far alone, a B/R can legally run from left to right side of the running lane to avoid a tag or to run to second (far more than 3 feet). I have already explained why the runner had to modify his original running lane, but some of you have already questioned that interpretation. It happens routinely at every other base.
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Wrong.
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I asked if this was another J/R moment? Well, am I WRONG, WRONG,WRONG, WRONG? If asking for a clear explanation about some of the baseball rules may upset you, then allow someone else to respond. Somehow I missed something, so connect the dots for me!
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I think you were Right, Wrong, Wrong, Wrong.
