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Originally posted by alfreedog
While I do understand wanting to give the ball back to B. It is not the right thing to do, the ball should go back to original spot and given to A. The rule is not up to interpretation or what we think is right.
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Al,
Please go take a look at what I wrote on the first page of this thread. It all depends upon whether or not there was a whistle DURING the throw-in. Canuck says there was, so by rule he was right to return the ball to Team B.
Remember his game was played using NCAA rules, not NFHS too.
Where Canuck and I disagree is in the case where he is unable to blow the whistle BEFORE the OOB violation occurs. He asserted that he would still give the ball back to Team B. I don't think that the rules allow that.
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Originally posted by alfreedog
When the ball OOB automatic the play is dead and play by B was finish. Whistle stops play not clock horn. Shot on last second is indicated by whistle not horn. Your whistle was an indication of the ball being dead and play finish.
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What you have written is not exactly correct. While you are right that the ball becomes dead when a violation is committed, not at the time when the whistle is blown to indicate the violation, you have failed to process the fact that Canuck blew his whistle PRIOR to the ball going OOB. Therefore, in this specific play, the ball became dead at the time the whistle was blown. The OOB violation never happens. Since the whistle was during the throw-in, NCAA rules give the ball back to Team B.
Also, a whistle at the end of a quarter or half is not required to stop play, unless a try for goal is in flight prior to the sounding of the horn.
If one is needed, the whistle should be blown once the try has ended. Of course, the ball is still dead immediately when the try ends.
Otherwise, the game clock horn, not a whistle, does make the ball dead and signal the end of a quarter or half.