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But a batted ball that strikes in fair territory a helmet that's fallen off R3 is fair regardless of where it ends up. So I'd argue that under OBR, absent a rule to the contrary, I'd rule fair on a ball hitting a bat and then going foul.
Regarding the pitcher's plate thing, I once saw a ground rule double that never left the infield. The ball struck third and rebounded into the dugout.
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