If by "shoulder level" we're talking about raising our arms even with the top of our shoulders, I think that's a bit high, even if the literal mechanic says shoulder level. A relaxed visible count that starts where our arm is naturally positioned looks good, is plenty visible and is less "strained" than if we have to consciously raise our arm so it's going out to the top of the shoulder. It ends up being slightly below the top of shoulder, but is much more natural looking. The picture in our manuals seems to support that, since the arm is starting just below the rib cage and then extending outward. So, I guess my point is that I HAVE seen some guys count with their arm too high.
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