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Originally posted by icallfouls
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Read my example about the same play in the state championship final, are you going to make this call? You cannot convince me that this is the right call for any championship game. If there are two perpetrators, then why didn't both get whacked for this as others have suggested here? Team A was un"fair"ly penalized in this situation and the referees wound up having a direct impact on the game.
I believe that these officials were having a great game and this call was not the right call at the right time, or place.
Now, if this is my game. Player A moves to their spot of preference, but Player B follows. I say "hold your spots" and bounce the ball to the FT shooter and I back out. If A starts to move, A is violating. It doesn't seem too hard to take care of to me. Player A was being difficult, but had come to a set position as Player B was following. Once B got positioned, A decided to move again. Put the ball into play, be more efficient with dead ball situations is my suggestion to stop the insanity.
There are other tools we can use for this situation and these needed to be explored first.
I want to reference 8-1-4f. I would guess that in this game since it was close, that all lane spaces were filled. Thus moving to an occupied space is not possible in this situation. Further, if we examine Rule 8-1, you can call the violation or double violation. Player A's delaying tactic was not warned in this game. I liken this tactic to a huddle in the key which prevents FT administration (thus an official warning would be called first).
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Jim -- thanks that makes your position clearer. In the original situation, the T came after the first free throw. It sounds as though it wasn't so much for delaying as for deliberately disobeying the referee. I think if I were lead in this situation, I'd give The Look to players A and B as soon as the ball was shot. Then quickly get the ball back in play, as you suggest. However, if either of them moved before I had a chance to accomplish that, I'd say something short, and then if they moved again, I'd whack them. Yes, I think I'd do that even in a state tournament game. (This may not be something I'll evr have to worry about). I can't imagine Brad Smith letting his players get away with this kind of crap. I can't think of a state tournament coach that would. (Although the Jesuit girls' coach would yell at the refs when they called it, and then yell at the player later. She yells about everything!)